They were not only rivals, but became Appo’s close mates.
Those friendships became important as the jockey faced discrimination due to the colour of his skin.
“I sat in the jockey’s room with the greatest jockeys, looked around the room, and there wasn’t to many sitting in the room the same colour that Lyall Appo was,” Appo said.
“I was taken off horses that I’d won on two or three times - not because other jockeys were better than me, but I was taken off for that reason.
“I’ve had trainers pull me up in a bar and say ‘you’ll never ride one of my horses’ because of that reason.
“As an Aboriginal person, I call it the snake - it’s when the snake shows his head, and the influence through the industry was rampant.”
Appo recalls an incident at the track on one occasion where he was on the receiving end of some particularly vile racial abuse.
“I remember one day I trotted out and you look up into the crowd, and the grandstand was just full of people,” Appo said.
“A bloke came over and he yelled out ‘hey look, there’s a monkey on that horse!’
“For a 16/17-year-old kid there wasn’t someone like my old man that I could turn around to and say ‘Dad, did you hear that?’
“I always tried to look through it and over the negative part of the industry, but it was always there - the snake showed its head all the time.”